Boehner reaffirms hard line

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WASHINGTON -- Speaker John Boehner stood his ground Sunday alongside the most conservative Republicans in Congress, insisting that the House would not vote to finance and reopen the government or to raise the nation's borrowing limit without concessions from President Barack Obama affecting his health care law.

"The fact is, this fight was going to come one way or the other," Mr. Boehner, R-Ohio, said on the ABC News program "This Week," adding, "We're in the fight."

With his hard line, Mr. Boehner reaffirmed that the stalemate with the White House over the 6-day-old government shutdown was now compounded by an even more economically risky fight over raising the government's borrowing limit by Oct. 17 to pay for bills already incurred.

Most of the government remains shuttered for a second week, with no end in sight, and markets and businesses were growing increasingly fretful over the chaos that could result from the first government default on its debt.

Both houses of Congress will be back in session this afternoon after making no progress toward breaking the budget deadlock last week. With Mr. Boehner and other Republicans expanding their demands from changes in the health care law to broader budget reductions to Medicare and Medicaid, senior administration officials said the White House would challenge them to propose specific savings they want from Medicare, the popular health care programs for older Americans.

On Sunday, Mr. Boehner disputed those lawmakers -- Democrats as well as some Republicans -- who have said that a bipartisan majority exists in the House to approve the funds needed to run the government in the new fiscal year that began last Tuesday, if the speaker would defy his most conservative Republican colleagues and allow a vote on the spending measure with no conditions -- a so-called clean bill.

"There are not the votes in the House to pass a clean CR," he said on the ABC program, referring to a continuing resolution to provide money for military and domestic programs.

The speaker's assessment that he did not have the votes to pass a clean budget bill was contradicted by members of both parties.

"I'm positive that a clean CR would pass," said Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.

"If it went on the floor tomorrow, I could see anywhere from 50 to 75 Republicans voting for it," he added. "And if it were a secret ballot, 150."

Mr. Boehner also said the House would not pass an essential increase in the debt limit without concessions from Mr. Obama. Republicans have said in recent days that Mr. Boehner had privately assured them that he would not allow a breach of the debt limit, though it was unclear how far he would be willing to go to avoid it.

In his television appearance, he said firmly, "We're not going to pass a clean debt-limit increase."

"I told the president, 'There's no way we're going to pass one,' " he added. "The votes are not in the House to pass a clean debt limit. And the president is risking default by not having a conversation with us."

Describing the negotiations he wanted with Mr. Obama, Mr. Boehner seemed to shift from demands that the president agree only to defund or delay his signature health care law -- a nonnegotiable condition, as Mr. Obama sees it -- to calling once again for deficit reduction talks that would result in savings from Medicare in particular.

Mr. Obama has proposed hundreds of billions of dollars in long-term savings in the entitlement programs, including Social Security, but only if Republicans agree to raise additional revenues by closing tax loopholes for wealthy individuals and some corporations.

Mr. Boehner ruled that out. "We're not raising taxes," he said.

On the budget impasse, the speaker acknowledged that in July he had gone to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and offered to have the House pass a clean funding resolution. His proposal would have set spending levels $70 billion lower than Democrats wanted, but would have no contentious add-ons like changing the health care law.

Democrats accepted, but they say that Mr. Boehner then reneged under pressure from Tea Party conservatives.

For the administration, Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew, the government's chief financial officer, appeared on four Sunday talk shows to keep the pressure on Republicans to raise the debt limit.

Mr. Lew, speaking on the CNN program "State of the Union," emphatically reiterated the administration's legal opinion that Mr. Obama cannot constitutionally raise the debt ceiling by himself if Congress fails to act.

"There is no option that prevents us from being in default if we're not paying our bills," Mr. Lew said, rejecting the idea that the president could invoke a constitutional power or take some other action. Mr. Obama has also ruled that out.

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